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 on: July 20, 2010, 11:30:41 AM 
Started by admin - Last post by admin
Hello everybody!   hi

I'm sorry that I can't dedicate my time for this project at this time  Embarrassed
BUT this forum isn't dead. Its asleep.  beer

While being an asylum seeker here in Sverige, I seriously study Web Development and Web design (Photoshop CS4 Standard), I also plan to study Adobe Fireworks and then to learn Adobe Flash CS5 and, if the technology gets popular, Microsoft Silverlight.

Nevertheless, you can ask your questions here and start new discussions about anything that interests you, etc.  idea

I renew and update my site from time to time. Recently I've done a complete redesign of it...But its under development now.


You can still contact me directly via Skype. My nick there is:
cromartie1974
I also added recently a new real time chat feature from my main site and also from here and from the gallery.
You can see in a lower right corner, there's a small window where its written ''Chat with us-1 online''. Just click it and you'll see my name and an icon photo. Click on me!  excl
Then the chat window would open and you can write anything you like to me in a real time.
So keep in touch!
Good luck and God bless!
Alon (forum's admin)

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 on: July 20, 2010, 11:17:50 AM 
Started by admin - Last post by admin
Доброго Вам времени суток!  hi

Я очень сожалею что ВРЕМЕННО я не могу уделить проекту форума своего времени.  Embarrassed
Я серьезно сидя тут в Sverige на азюле учу Web разработку и дизайн для Web (Фотошоп CS4 Standard)-я также планирую занятся Adobe Fireworks и потом (на дальнюю перспективу я имею ввиду Adobe Flash CS5 и, если технология приживется, Microsoft Silverlight.
Тем не менее Вы можете задавать свои вопросы, начинать дискуссии на интересующие Вас темы и т.д. idea
Я периодически обновляю свой сайт. Недавно я сделал ему редизайн, но это пока все в процессе...
НО этот форум НЕ мертв. Он находится в спячке! beer

Вы можете со мной также связаться напрямую через Агент от mail.ru или через Скайп. В обоих случаях мой ник:
cromartie1974
Я также недавно добавил функцию чата в режиме реального времени и из основного сайта, а также из галереи и форума.
Справа снизу Вы видите маленькое окошко и если я тут, то  там будет написано ''Chat with us-1 online''. Кликните и Вы увидите
моё имя и иконку с фоткой. Кликните на меня  excl
Тогда откроется окно чата. Только Вам придется писать транслитом (т.е. латиницей), т.к. пока кириллицу чат со стороны клиента не поддерживает (это в процессе). Но я Вам буду отвечать кириллицей.
В общем, будем на связи!
Удачи всем!
С Богом!
Алон (админ форума)

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 on: May 09, 2010, 09:57:46 AM 
Started by MishaF - Last post by christina1985
sorry...in 1) I wanted to write TO GO (not to to) there. sorry guys

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 on: May 09, 2010, 09:47:59 AM 
Started by MishaF - Last post by christina1985
Helo everyone here!

I want to tell what I think  excl

In Belarus we dont have enough fridom and I want to go to a fri country to be free and find a husband. I love men... flow
I am a juornalist in the future. Its easier for me in Russian   Sad Sorry for my bad english, OK?
Now I will tell you my opinion,OK?

1) In Belarus we do have churches, but some people a who grew up in Sovet Union are still afraid to to there becos we have KGB like in USSR.
2) My country also signed Geneva Convention and we accept little bit of refugees everyyear!!! So it is not problem for us.
3) My goverment does what they want. They dont care...
4) I think that proving in Belarus is not important a lot. Becos my goverment needs PR .I agree with MishaF  beer
5 ) No...language is no problem here!!! Becos most refugees know Russian.
6) We are not racists!!!  idea But my goverment is afraid that people will not work and be criminals and make problems for us. So militsiya (we call like that the police) dont like not local people too much.
7) We dont have many refugee people yet...I wish we will have more becos refugee men are very SEXY!!! wow

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 on: May 02, 2010, 06:37:53 AM 
Started by admin - Last post by admin
This topic has been moved to Topics Of General Interest For Asylum Seekers.

http://www.asylum-seeker.org/forum/index.php?topic=33.0

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 on: May 02, 2010, 06:29:01 AM 
Started by MishaF - Last post by admin
Welcome to Refugee Forum, MishaF!

I mostly agree with you, but let me add my 5 cents here as well...

1) You mentioned "Christian West". But how actually the West IS christian? In the West where the most popular male name for a newborn is Muhammed, where you hardly see a Cross (especially here in lutheran Sweden), where people don't attend church services and where 90% of accepted asylum-seekers are Muslim. I would say that it's a Pagan West with some sort of christian fig leaf attributes. As a matter of fact, about 2 weeks ago, when I read commentary to the Gospel of Matthew, I found an explanation that Kingdom of Heaven is a Church, but our christian world isn't. There're too many "random characters" if you will in this "Christian" West. In a Bible Jesus clearly discriminates between people of God or chosen ones and the rest of humanity (He's not even willing to pay attention to pagan woman begging Him for help, Matthew 15:21-28) . In liberal Sweden that would be totally unacceptable. I can make a whole long list of biblical norms and values that would be totally unacceptable, even criminal in the modern West.
2) As per "what is a refugee"...Geneva Convention explains it all. But the problem is that some countries like Sweden artificially expand the definition of refugees...They also include people in war zones as well. Though, as far as I know, those people here don't get a status of a full refugee, but "skyddbehövande" or someone in "need of protection". So people from Iraq until recently could just show up here and automaticall get a positive decision. But its an absurd. Iraq is a country of 31,000,000 people. Was Sweden (a country of about 9,000,000) really ready to absorb 31,000,000 people? Of course NOT! I can keep talking on and on about lots of different aspects that must be changed, in my opinion, but ...
3) "almighty Europeans" are judges who have a legal authority to decide whether a person in fact is a refugee.
4) I think you misunderstand what "burden of proof" actually means in a refugee determination context....
Its not the same as in a criminal prosecution. They don't require you to show a DNA test results or a close circuit video tape and alike. Noone would reasonably expect from a victim of persecution to have that kind of evidence! I think "to prove" means to "show that your story has logic, is plausible, and in which you have all the neccessary elements (subjective and objective fear, an internal flight alternative, ie. IFA etc.)
5) As per language.. here in Sweden, 90% of the locals speak English in various degrees and asylum-seekers are not even obligated to attend SFI (Svenska För Invandrare-Swedish For Foreigners) courses.
6) Sweden (unlike Canada) doesn't have an immigration program. And to get an employment authorisation for a non-EU citizen is almost impossible (unless you're a very VERY special person). See... right ot wrong...western countries see a potential immigrant as someone who will contribute to a host society. Unlike an immigrant, a refugee is seen as a burden, a trouble maker etc. Speaking of EU, non-EU thing...In my opinion, its more of a hidden and politically correct racism. I mean, if you're a European, then you can come and settle in any EU country and if you're not from Europe, then you're out of luck.
And tell me how a Bulgarian citizen can contribute more for Sweden than you and I? Like what's the difference between him and us? Ethnic background. Or someone from Europe would try to convince me that a russian speaker is less of a value for Sweden than a bulgarian native?
7) I think, its not even a PR...Its more of a power of inertia. And nowadays western countries do their best to slower it down on refugees.

"In this cynical age refugees need a virtual place, like this, to find out what weapons they need to arm themselves with to fight their just course in the foster countries. "
                                                                                  appl    THANKS A LOT!!!
P.S.I want to direct all visitors of this forum to my main site where you can get lots of free and very useful information :
asylum-seeker.org
And also feel free to ask your questions at the forum in an appropriate section. excl

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 on: May 01, 2010, 10:23:42 PM 
Started by MishaF - Last post by MishaF
Under the United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees from 1951, refugee is a person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted on account of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of their nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail him/herself of the protection of that country.

So in comes the democratic and liberal and Godly and Christian West to ... judge wether this person is actually a refugee or a lier. Who is a refugee? Or rather, what is a refugee? Another question: who are these almighty Europeans who decide in their courts wether one's a refugee or not? One's word is not enough, you need proof, you need to provide papers that prove beyond a shadow of doubt the definition drawn by UN. You need to learn to speak that country's language. You need to learn your ways around its judicial system that automatically assumed that you are NOT a refugee, that you're here to better your life (while that same country issues working visas and later on passports to highly educated specialists who are beyond a shadown of doubt come to that country to better their lives). Western countries have double standards. They "welcome" refugees for purely PR sake. They are thoroughly cynical about these refugee people. Sometimes they do allow these people to stay, paying that small allowances to prevent them from working and encouraging them to leave the country and go home.

In this cynical age refugees need a virtual place, like this, to find out what weapons they need to arm themselves with to fight their just course in the foster countries.

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